tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post114089772744247951..comments2023-10-20T07:28:50.948-07:00Comments on Better Bibles Blog: Email to Justin TaylorWayne Lemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18024771201561767893noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post-1141263920810409552006-03-01T17:45:00.000-08:002006-03-01T17:45:00.000-08:00I have just read the full version of the Statement...I have just read the full version of the Statement of Concern by following the link you provided.<BR/>I fail to see the personal attacks on the translators that you seem to think are there.<BR/>So I read it a second time, and, no I still cannot see the personalised attacks you refer to.<BR/>I can see no justifiable reason for any of the signatories to retract any of their concerns.<BR/>I do find your accusations against the ESV signatories to be based more on your own preconceptions than on what was actually said and as such I can see nothing for Justin Taylor to respond to.<BR/>Why should Justin Taylor, Dr Grudem and Dr Poythress retract something that is not doing what you say it is.<BR/>The Statement of Concern is balanced and does not attack the TNIV translators, but makes fair comment on the issues of translation.<BR/>I'm afraid that it is you that has tried to turn it into something it is not.Glennsphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18157051195736064330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post-1141130610447379832006-02-28T04:43:00.000-08:002006-02-28T04:43:00.000-08:00Rick, the NIV Inclusive Language Edition was not w...Rick, the NIV Inclusive Language Edition was not withdrawn here in the UK. It is still listed by <A HREF="http://authorpages.hoddersystems.com/NIV/inclusive.htm" REL="nofollow">the UK publishers Hodder and Stoughton</A>, although there is a technical problem with the site. And it is listed as available at <A HREF="http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0340591404/qid%3D1141130502/026-9798998-8106030" REL="nofollow">amazon.co.uk</A>.<BR/><BR/>I found the following commendation on the <A HREF="http://authorpages.hoddersystems.com/NIV/commendation.html" REL="nofollow">Hodder and Stoughton NIV website</A>, on a page which also has several TNIV commendations:<BR/><BR/><B>I am an enthusiast for The Thematic NIV Study Bible.</B><BR/>J I PackerPeter Kirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13395635409427347613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post-1141009093057624342006-02-26T18:58:00.000-08:002006-02-26T18:58:00.000-08:00Thanks. What I realy want is justice for the trans...Thanks. What I realy want is justice for the translators of the TNIV.How can we talk about better Bibles with this kind of selective condemnation going ?Suzanne McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033350578895908993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post-1140982800991622262006-02-26T11:40:00.000-08:002006-02-26T11:40:00.000-08:00I would have to say you're right Suzanne. Most peo...I would have to say you're right Suzanne. Most people forget about the inclusive NIV. And not only was it axed for US release, but they also withdrew the UK version completely, after it had already been published! <BR/><BR/>Fortunatly, I ordered a copy while they were still available and had it shipped here to the US. When I compared it to the NLT which was fairly new at the time, I felt like the NIVI was more conservative in its gender inclusivity than the NLT was. This is what the original Colorado Springs Guidelines were in response to, if I'm not mistaken. And D. A. Carson's <I>The Inclusive Langauge Debate: A Plea for Realism</I> was primarily in response to the reaction to the NIVI.<BR/><BR/>To this day (and I've said this before) I still don't understand why the NLT is accepted and the TNIV is not. If it's a matter of the NIV figuring as a more prominent translation, then I don't know what the problem is since IBS/Zondervan chose not to withdraw the standard NIV from publication, too.R. Mansfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12333586197235312918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post-1140937521241836552006-02-25T23:05:00.000-08:002006-02-25T23:05:00.000-08:00I have just posted this on Justin Taylor's site. O...I have just posted this on Justin Taylor's site. Of course, it won't stick.<BR/><BR/>I think the point is that the ESV was a response to the NIVI, 1996, (inclusive language) in England, which preceded the TNIV. <BR/><BR/>I was at a workshop in 1997 with some of the NIVI translators when I first heard about this. <BR/><BR/>"Zondervan, publishers of the New International Version attempted to publish a gender inclusive translation in 1996 also (NIVI) and were thoroughly attacked for the publication of the The NIVI-UK edition by enough evangelical scholars that publication in of the NIVI in North America was axed." <BR/><BR/>http://instructor.pbi.ab.ca/StevenIbbotson/RevScrip/Gender.html<BR/><BR/>Does anyone remember this?Suzanne McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033350578895908993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post-1140901485898376402006-02-25T13:04:00.000-08:002006-02-25T13:04:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Suzanne McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033350578895908993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post-1140901018938129232006-02-25T12:56:00.000-08:002006-02-25T12:56:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Suzanne McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033350578895908993noreply@blogger.com