tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post115939389901845231..comments2023-10-20T07:28:50.948-07:00Comments on Better Bibles Blog: ESV person and number changesWayne Lemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18024771201561767893noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post-1159615455778229522006-09-30T04:24:00.000-07:002006-09-30T04:24:00.000-07:00To be fair to the ESV proponents, not all of the "...To be fair to the ESV proponents, not all of the "changes" that they object to relate to gender language. In Wayne Grudem's list of <A HREF="http://www.genderneutralbibles.com/article.php?id=5" REL="nofollow">Translation Inaccuracies in the 2005 TNIV</A>, out of 910 "changes" in TNIV which he objects to, "<I>Most of the changes in this list have to do with gender language ... However, at the end we have also included a list of 24 verses that were changed to avoid using the phrase "the Jews" and 41 verses where the nuance of holiness in "saints" has been lost.</I>" Thus only 845 out of the 910 relate to gender. That is 93% of them. So perhaps that is an estimate of the importance of the gender issue in Grudem's theology.Peter Kirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13395635409427347613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post-1159550394508385082006-09-29T10:19:00.000-07:002006-09-29T10:19:00.000-07:00they only object to those changes that interfere w...they only object to those changes that interfere with their theology: now women allowed. <BR/><BR/>while I like the ESV in many respects I find them to be inconsistant in their attempt to be essentially literal, I am almost ready to either switch back to the NASU or the NRSV.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11912653730884160224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post-1159454261509545442006-09-28T07:37:00.000-07:002006-09-28T07:37:00.000-07:00Isn't part of the problem that many of the ESV pro...<I>Isn't part of the problem that many of the ESV proponents don't believe that fairness applies equally to goose and gander, but that the goose is actually there to compliment the gander?</I><BR/><BR/>:-)<BR/><BR/>Honk, if you love puns!!Wayne Lemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18024771201561767893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post-1159414769121416042006-09-27T20:39:00.000-07:002006-09-27T20:39:00.000-07:00Okay, I can't resist...Isn't part of the problem t...Okay, I can't resist...<BR/><BR/>Isn't part of the problem that many of the ESV proponents don't believe that fairness applies equally to goose and gander, but that the goose is actually there to compliment the gander?Trierrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06747045962664313280noreply@blogger.com