tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post3849675188896367012..comments2023-10-20T07:28:50.948-07:00Comments on Better Bibles Blog: I suffer not a woman....Wayne Lemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18024771201561767893noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post-36642380954598476212007-09-21T17:47:00.000-07:002007-09-21T17:47:00.000-07:00I'm sure the Kroeger's writing has been very valua...I'm sure the Kroeger's writing has been very valuable. The truth is that I am not that familiar with it.Suzanne McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033350578895908993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post-91278101686078806012007-09-21T17:12:00.000-07:002007-09-21T17:12:00.000-07:00Thanks for the post Susan. I do appreciate it. I...Thanks for the post Susan. I do appreciate it. It has been a while since I read the book but I think it is just explaining 1 Tim 2:12 and not necessarily a "proof" of egalitairianism per se. Thanks again.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11912653730884160224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post-14259516636858314352007-09-20T18:39:00.000-07:002007-09-20T18:39:00.000-07:00I agree John. I find it odd that so much hermeneut...I agree John. I find it odd that so much hermeneutical weight is placed on that passage, making it the lenses through which all the other scriptures are viewed through, when it obviously isn't as clear or straightforward as some would like to believe it is.<BR/><BR/>Blessings,<BR/>Bryan LBryan Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04144487212639973542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post-45882597910518114552007-09-20T10:32:00.000-07:002007-09-20T10:32:00.000-07:00An important principle of interpretation, biblical...An important principle of interpretation, biblical or otherwise, is to interpret obscure passages in light of clear ones.<BR/><BR/>That's where people who depend on the authentein passage go completely wrong. This passage, read as part of Scripture, has to be interpreted in the light of other passages which clearly countenance or describe women teaching men. <BR/><BR/>ancienthebrewpoetry.typepad.comJohn Hobbinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17011346264727684917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post-56839102217724543742007-09-20T08:04:00.000-07:002007-09-20T08:04:00.000-07:00Wolters' review is in the Calvin Theological Journ...Wolters' review is in the Calvin Theological Journal 28(1993) and is reprinted in full in Ev. Fem and Biblical Truth by Wayne Grudem. Without duplicating the research, as I did with the Junia article, I have no way of knowing if there are errors in the Kroeger's work or not. There are some obvious misstatements in Wolters' review. Other than that I just don't know. I wouldn't say that the egalitarian position depends on Kroeger's research, although they have certainly made a significant contribution.<BR/><BR/>The egalitarian position really depends on one's view of God as revealed in the scriptures. <BR/><BR/>I am having some trouble navigating the new CBMW site and google results do not line up with actual pages for the moment.Suzanne McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033350578895908993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post-91444168735138723952007-09-20T05:09:00.000-07:002007-09-20T05:09:00.000-07:00Michael Kruse is still keeping in close step with ...Michael Kruse is still keeping in close step with you (and no longer ignoring you) with <A HREF="http://krusekronicle.typepad.com/kruse_kronicle/2007/09/houeshold-head-.html" REL="nofollow">this new post</A>. In it he quotes from a more recent Catherine Kroeger article on the ancient meanings of "head". Presumably she has had plenty of time to benefit from any criticisms of her and her husband's methodology made by Wolters.Peter Kirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13395635409427347613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11875966.post-73941245367077156382007-09-20T04:49:00.000-07:002007-09-20T04:49:00.000-07:00Wolters' review of the Kroegers' book is not in JB...Wolters' review of the Kroegers' book is not in JBMW Vol. 3, No. 3. It has also disappeared from the CBMW website, despite <A HREF="http://www.cbmw.org/resources/reviews/suffernot.php" REL="nofollow">this URL</A> being found in a search there. You can probably find it <A HREF="http://www.efbt100.com/2006/evangelical_feminism.pdf#page=646" REL="nofollow">here</A>, but this means downloading 3 MB of EFBT (PDF), and I don't consider that worth that much disc space.Peter Kirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13395635409427347613noreply@blogger.com